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02/05/2009 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:02:08 PM Presentation: Ocs Citizen Review Panel: Response from Ocs Director Tammy Sandoval
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Response from OCS Director Tammy Sandoval
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                        February 5, 2009                                                                                        
                           3:00 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wes Keller, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: OCS CITIZEN REVIEW PANEL: RESPONSE FROM OCS                                                                       
DIRECTOR TAMMY SANDOVAL                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No Previous Action to Record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
FRED VAN WALLINGA, Chair                                                                                                        
Alaska Citizen Review Panel (CRP)                                                                                               
Willow, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a Power Point of the Alaska                                                                    
Citizen Review Panel report on the Office of Children's Service.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN HEUER                                                                                                                     
Alaska Citizen Review Panel (CRP)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions on the                                                                  
Alaska Citizen Review Panel report on the Office of Children's                                                                  
Service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY SANDOVAL, Director                                                                                                        
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Office of Children's Services (OCS)                                                                                             
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and responded to the CRP report.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:00:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BOB  HERRON called the  House Health and  Social Services                                                            
Standing Committee  meeting to order at 3:00  p.m.  Representative                                                              
Herron  was  present  at  the  call  to  order.    Representatives                                                              
Cissna,  Coghill,   and  Lynn  arrived  as  the   meeting  was  in                                                              
progress.    Representatives  Seaton,   Holmes,  and  Keller  were                                                              
excused.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:  OCS  Citizen  Review   Panel:  Response  from  OCS                                                            
Director Tammy Sandoval                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:02:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                              
be  a  presentation  by  the  OCS  Citizen  Review  Panel  with  a                                                              
response from OCS Director Tammy Sandoval.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Included in the  members' packets were copies of  the Power Point                                                              
presentation, "Alaska's Citizen Review Panel."]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:02:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRED  VAN WALLINGA,  Chair,  Alaska  Citizen Review  Panel  (CRP),                                                              
presented  a Power Point  titled "Alaska's  Citizen Review  Panel"                                                              
and cited the background  of the Alaska Citizen Review  Panel.  He                                                              
explained that the  CRP was mandated by state and  federal law, as                                                              
shown on slide 3, "Mandate for the Group."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN WALLINGA  reported on slide 4, "CRP Vision,"  that the CRP                                                              
role was  to enable  the Office  of Children's  Services (OCS)  to                                                              
implement its  policies and procedures  in a culturally  sensitive                                                              
and consistent  manner across  the state.   He went on  to recount                                                              
the  CRP  membership  on slide  5,  "Who  are  we?" and  slide  6,                                                              
"Current members."  He introduced the members who were present.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN WALLINGA  summarized the  CRP Duties,  which included  an                                                              
evaluation  of the  OCS, on  slide 7,  "CRP Duties"  and slide  8,                                                              
"CRP Duties, (continued)."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:06:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  WALLINGA indicated that  the latest CRP focus  included a                                                              
review for the addition  of a fifth service region,  slide 9, "Our                                                              
focus for the past year."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  HEUER, Alaska  Citizen  Review  Panel, mentioned  that  the                                                              
group did not  investigate individual cases.   She discussed slide                                                              
10, "What we've  been doing," and slide 11, "What  else we've been                                                              
doing,"  which reported  attendance  at teleconferences,  meetings                                                              
with OCS partners and staff, and national conferences.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:08:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  summarized  slide 12,  "A couple more  things we  did,"                                                              
slide 13, "Where  some of us have been," and slide  14, "We've met                                                              
with..."  and  informed  the  committee   that  CRP  had  attended                                                              
conferences  in more than  ten Alaska  communities with  key local                                                              
citizenry,   which  included   counseling   center  staff,   state                                                              
troopers, tribal representatives, and health aides.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER  acknowledged  significant   improvements  to  the  OCS                                                              
delivery of child  protection services, as shown on  slides 15 and                                                              
16, "OCS  is improving due to...  ," which included  key personnel                                                              
changes,  system   changes,  and   increased  responsiveness   and                                                              
collaboration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:12:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER referenced  slide 17, "Issues of concern,"  and said CRP                                                              
would talk  about hiring freeze,  standardization, and  a proposed                                                              
Region 5.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  addressed the hiring  freeze, highlighted on  slide 18,                                                              
"Issues  of concern."   She  stressed  that OCS  had a  protective                                                              
role in  public safety,  and that this  freeze would  increase the                                                              
risk of departure  of already overloaded workers  should vacancies                                                              
remain unfilled.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER addressed  the creation of a new Bethel-based  Region 5,                                                              
as explained on  slide 19 and slide 20, "Issues  of Concern Region                                                              
5."    She  relayed  the  strong   support  for  a  smaller,  more                                                              
culturally focused  region as it  would be in the  children's best                                                              
interest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  WALLINGA added  that this new  region would  be comprised                                                              
primarily of bush communities with tribal representation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL stated  his consideration  for the  issue,                                                              
but advised  that the  budget would  still need  to be  addressed.                                                              
He  recounted  that  the  current  region  was  comprised  of  the                                                              
judicial  district in  Fairbanks, the  OCS office  in Mat-Su,  and                                                              
the   support  services   in   Anchorage.     He   analyzed   that                                                              
organizational changes might better serve the Bethel region.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:17:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN   WALLINGA  acknowledged   that   the  funding   was  not                                                              
available,  but that  a  search for  a solution  was  kept in  the                                                              
forefront.   He  mentioned  that there  was  strong vocal  support                                                              
from the  line workers, the tribes,  and the Indian  Child Welfare                                                              
Act (ICWA) workers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:19:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked if the regions  were based on  geography or                                                              
population.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN WALLINGA said that he did not know.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked about  the staff vacancy  rate for  each of                                                              
the regions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  offered   her  belief  that  many  of  the                                                              
problems were generational.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL commented that  the caseload  for proposed                                                              
Region  5 would  be ICWA  and that  many  of the  issues would  be                                                              
cultural.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  agreed that cultural  bonding, travel  limitations, and                                                              
other  issues unique  to  the Bethel  area  were  important.   She                                                              
informed the  committee that the  Bethel region did not  feel they                                                              
were  heard, which  lead  to a  very high  staff  turnover due  to                                                              
worker frustration.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:24:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  reconfirmed that  the  interconnectedness                                                              
of state and tribal courts made this a unique area.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN WALLINGA  offered his belief that OCS and  ICWA workers in                                                              
Bethel needed  to collaborate  to better  understand each  group's                                                              
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL   offered   his  perception   that   this                                                              
collaboration  would provide a  positive example  for the  rest of                                                              
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:27:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked to identify  the communities in  the Yukon-                                                              
Kuskokwim (Y-K) Delta  that did not want to be part  of the Bethel                                                              
hub.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN WALLINGA  clarified that  the workers  and the  community                                                              
members did want  to be part of  the Bethel hub, but  that the OCS                                                              
supervisors did not.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:28:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  reviewed slide 21,  "Issues of Concern,  Many solutions                                                              
to problems..."  and explained  that the  OCS Director  lacked the                                                              
discretionary powers for resolution to many problems.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER  continued   on  to  slide  22,  "Issues   of  Concern,                                                              
Standardization..."  and  addressed  the lack  of  standardization                                                              
for support services  among state agencies, which  included worker                                                              
housing and high speed internet access.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:32:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER requested  support for the concerns listed  on slide 23,                                                              
"We'd like  your help to address  these concerns,"  which included                                                              
an  OCS exemption  to the  hiring  freeze, and  resolution to  the                                                              
lack of standardization of services among state agencies.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:33:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER  cited  some very  positive,  enthusiastic  results  of                                                              
recent CRP and OCS collaboration.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER shared  slide 24, "Benefits of CRP,"  which recapped the                                                              
unique volunteer role of the CRP advocacy for child protection.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL noted  his  appreciation for  all the  CRP                                                              
help.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  asked  if  the regional  problems  were  due  to                                                              
distance or culture.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  WALLINGA replied  that  travel was part  of the  problem.                                                              
He  explained that  although the  procedures  were similar,  there                                                              
was a rural uniqueness.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  agreed that there were differences  between rural                                                              
and urban communities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:45:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY  SANDOVAL, Director,  Central Office,  Office of  Children's                                                              
Services (OCS),  Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS),                                                              
agreed that CRP was a valuable tool for OCS.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:46:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  observed   that  the  hiring  freeze  and                                                              
Region 5 were the most important issues to discuss.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:47:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL, in  response to  a question  from Co-Chair  Herron,                                                              
replied that  a waiver for an  exception to the hiring  freeze had                                                              
been submitted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked if the waiver criteria were available.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL  offered  to  speak to  the  justification  for  the                                                              
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  repeated  his  request  for  a  list  of  waiver                                                              
criteria.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL suggested  that this  was a public  safety                                                              
policy issue,  which would be resolved  through the Office  of the                                                              
Governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  explained that  the need to  provide for  the safety                                                              
and  protection  of children  was  the  rationale for  the  waiver                                                              
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  asked  if  the   request  encompassed  all  four                                                              
regions.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL replied that it did.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  explained that she  did not know the  reasons behind                                                              
the  formation  of  the  four  regions.     She  agreed  with  the                                                              
uniqueness  of the  Bethel area,  and she suggested  that  OCS and                                                              
CRP collaborate  to review  and possibly  reorganize the  division                                                              
of the direct services for the area.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  noted that  an administrative  clerk had  been hired                                                              
in Wasilla  to solely  focus on  the Bethel  region, and  that OCS                                                              
had  requested an  exception to  travel processes  for the  Bethel                                                              
region, in recognition of the unique challenges.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:54:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  confirmed that  OCS and CRP  had shared  many ideas,                                                              
including an  updated live  response phone  system, and  a staffed                                                              
toll free hot line.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  shared with CRP the  success for the  co-location of                                                              
OCS front line  workers with other field professionals  in a multi                                                              
disciplinary setting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:59:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL  stated  that  she  had responded  to  each  of  the                                                              
recommendations  from  the CRP  June  report, which  included  CRP                                                              
training on the  safety assessment model.  She  announced that the                                                              
results from  the federal  Child and  Family Services  review were                                                              
due.   She revealed that  the report would  state that  OCS, along                                                              
with  every  other  state,  had  not  substantially  achieved  the                                                              
measureable outcomes.   She assured  the committee that a  plan to                                                              
remedy and implement improvement strategies was in process.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                              
Coghill,  said that  she  was not  exactly  sure  when the  report                                                              
would be issued.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL detailed  that scrutiny  of OCS came  from                                                              
three  areas:  Program  Improvement   Plan  (PIP),  CRP,  and  the                                                              
legislature.  He  asked how the Online Resources  for the Children                                                              
of Alaska (ORCA) was working.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  explained that there  was a federally  tiered system                                                              
to  reward  satisfactory  compliance.    She  reported  that  this                                                              
system was  comprised of  seven systemic  factors, which  included                                                              
case management systems.   She expressed her belief  that the ORCA                                                              
case  management system  was now  extremely  functional, and  that                                                              
OCS  would   pass  this   federal  factor.     She  relayed   that                                                              
connectivity was the problem with ORCA, not the program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL asked  if  the money  the legislature  had                                                              
appropriated  for  staff training  was  effective  as a  retention                                                              
tool.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  responded that, within  six months, she  expected to                                                              
see  a  difference  in  retention  based on  the  training.    She                                                              
explained  that a  revised curriculum  had  been developed,  which                                                              
was  implemented  in  November  for  supervisor  training  and  in                                                              
January for  core worker  training.  She  cited that  workers were                                                              
now more prepared and better able to do their jobs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  asked if  this was a continuing  education                                                              
credit or a standardized methodology.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL reported  that  this was  now  a standard  training.                                                              
She  explained  that  it  had  required  a  critical  analysis  to                                                              
determine  what training  was missing,  and  then development  for                                                              
those areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:10:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL   recounted  that  the   Ombudsman  report                                                              
indicated  that some OCS  supervisory staff  were either  ignorant                                                              
of, or reluctant  to implement, some of the law.   He allowed that                                                              
this was a "way we've always done it" attitude.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  replied that she was  not familiar with  the report.                                                              
She  related her  disappointment,  and disclosed  that OCS  placed                                                              
great  importance  on family,  extended  family,  and  non-nuclear                                                              
family.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL   acknowledged   that  there   was   some                                                              
disparity between the statute standard and the ICWA standard.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  commented on the institutional memory  within OCS                                                              
and ICWA.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  responded that  during the past  four years  OCS had                                                              
embraced   the  idea  of   institutional   racism  and  the   over                                                              
representation of  Native Alaskan children.  She  related that OCS                                                              
had  reviewed  the  reasons  for  this  overrepresentation.    She                                                              
acknowledged  that  she had  focused  too  closely on  creating  a                                                              
Region 5,  as opposed to  focusing on what  could be  done without                                                              
spending a lot of money.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  acknowledged that  departments, legislatures  and                                                              
organizations all  dealt with partisanship, and he  noted the ease                                                              
of falling back into institutional practices.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA shared  that caseload  was a difficulty  in                                                              
many occupations,  and that staffing  to national  standards might                                                              
be  a  solution  for  retention.    She  expressed  a  desire  for                                                              
determining a  dollar value for  issues that were not  resolved at                                                              
an early stage, in order to measure the long term cost.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL, in  response to Co-Chair Herron,  explained that the                                                              
federal  review  was  in  September,  at  the  end  of  which  OCS                                                              
received the preliminary  findings.  She shared that  OCS had just                                                              
received a  courtesy copy  of the report,  with an opportunity  to                                                              
respond within  two weeks.   She disclosed  that the  final report                                                              
would be mailed a few weeks after the OCS departmental response.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:25:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL,  in response  to Co-Chair  Herron, allowed  that the                                                              
most  alarming  disclosures  in  the  report  were  the  need  for                                                              
improvement to the  safety and risk assessments  for children, and                                                              
the low  rate of home visits.   She stated  that the rate  of home                                                              
visits  had  improved  since  the  report.    She  reiterated  her                                                              
request for more field staff.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:29:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN   asked  about  the  notification   for  home                                                              
visits.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  revealed that  notice of the  visit depended  on the                                                              
type, purpose, and stage of the case.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:30:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  asked about the flexibility  of scheduling                                                              
for workers, in order to reduce the stress level of staff.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.   SANDOVAL  granted   that  employees   had  that   scheduling                                                              
flexibility.   She noted  that several workers  had four  day work                                                              
weeks,  which  allowed  for  home  visits, as  the  work  day  was                                                              
longer.   She  provided  that staff  could  also  flex their  work                                                              
schedule so as to not work overtime.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  asked if this was determined  by the local                                                              
area manager.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL   explained  that  permanent   alternative  schedule                                                              
requests  were made  through  the state  office  however the  unit                                                              
supervisor  would  make  case  by  case  decisions  for  temporary                                                              
adjustments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL asked  about  the pay  range  for a  first                                                              
year social worker.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL reported  that a Child Services Specialist  1 was pay                                                              
range 15, which started at about $42,000 per year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  recounted that even given  that pay range,                                                              
the turnover  was high.   He  explained that  the staff  needed to                                                              
use  their  own   cars,  and  then  request  reimbursement.     He                                                              
concluded that the staff had a lot of responsibility.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  continued and asked how the  practicum for                                                              
the University of Alaska BSW program was working.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL informed  the committee that although  there were new                                                              
partnerships   with   the   University,   there  could   be   more                                                              
collaboration  with the  schools of  social work.   She  mentioned                                                              
that  she  regularly visited  with  students  at  the end  of  the                                                              
school year to encourage them to start a career with OCS.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  remarked   that  the  front  line  social                                                              
worker  required  an  investment  in training.    He  offered  his                                                              
belief that new  Bachelor of Social Work graduates  brought a more                                                              
contemporary   view  than   the  more  historical   view   of  the                                                              
management  staff.    He  allowed  that  this  could  create  some                                                              
tension.    He   perceived  that  job  turnover   was  more  often                                                              
precipitated  by the  management  than by  the  difficulty of  the                                                              
job.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL agreed, and promised to continue evaluations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL   recommended   an  investment   in   the                                                              
supervisory staff training.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON agreed that these were very difficult jobs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:39:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked if the home visits were dangerous.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  disclosed that  OCS had the  ability for  a criminal                                                              
background   check  before  the   visit.     She  said   that  law                                                              
enforcement  would provide  support if the  situation appeared  to                                                              
be dangerous.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:41:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA   commented  that  adequate   training  was                                                              
essential.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:44:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN WALLINGA  lamented that connectivity for  the ORCA program                                                              
was  slow, that  work  spaces were  sub-standard,  and that  there                                                              
needed  to  be staff  housing.    He suggested  that  the  federal                                                              
review  held  OCS  to  an unfair  standard,  as  travel  was  made                                                              
difficult  by weather.   He reiterated  that  the rural areas  had                                                              
unique problems and he voiced the need for a Region 5.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:50:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further business  before the committee,  the House                                                              
Health  and   Social  Services  Standing  Committee   meeting  was                                                              
adjourned at 4:50 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CRP 2008 annual report 6-30 FINAL final.pdf HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM
CRP 2008 Annual report response.doc HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM
CRP 2008 Appendix A.doc HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM
CRP 2008 Appendix B.xls HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM
CRP 2008 Appendix C.doc HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM
HSS Agenda 2.09.docx HHSS 2/5/2009 3:00:00 PM